Our First Childbirth: Memories and a Few Thoughts

Photo of Martin A. Couney's Baby Incubator exhibit, Alaska-Yukon-Pacific-Exposition, Seattle, Washington. (1909) University of Washington Libraries. Digital Collections see http://content.lib.washington.edu/ via Wikipedia
Helping babies stay alive, bucking the medical status quo in 1909.

When I asked our oldest daughter what she’d like me to write about this week, she suggested “stories about when each of us was born”.

Bilboq's cartoon: 'Busy Desk'. (2006) via Wikipedia
“Busy Desk”, Bilboq. (2006)

The birth of each child was an important event, at least for me and my wife, so I figured it’d be a matter of deciding which memories to pick.

Then I started poking around the labyrinthine interior of my mind.

Turns out I’ve got a few vivid snapshots, but not nearly as many details as I thought there’d be.

I’ve got a pretty good memory; apart from things like appointment times, anniversaries — fact is, I’ll be asking my wife for help with this post. It’s been decades since the mental machinery filed away those experiences.

Meanwhile, I’ll start talking about our oldest child’s birth, and see what happens.


Birth: The First Time

This was when we were living in Fargo, North Dakota. I was doing time in academia again, getting a teaching degree in English. That was in daylight hours.

At night, when the due date came, I was a temp worker — a “Kelly Girl” — thankfully, I didn’t mind the disconnect, and that’s another topic. More specifically, I was a computer operator on the graveyard shift at an implement company.

Happily, the offices were in a building near the hospital we’d picked. Getting coffee, I could look out the window and see the building. Then, when my shift was over, I’d go over and see how my wife and newborn were doing.

But I’m getting ahead of the story.

Besides practical matters, the folks who were giving our — birth preparation class? birthing class? — anyway, the ‘what to expect, what to do, and how to do it’ class.

Where was I? Birthing class, the folks who were giving it. Right. Anyway, these folks gave advice for how to get a quick response at the hospital’s emergency entrance after hours.

We could, one of them said, get close to the outside microphone and make gasping-breath sounds — demonstrating the technique. I’m guessing that it was a joke, but it did strike me as a good way to encourage liveliness.

My wife and I didn’t need to do that. Getting to the hospital and the maternity ward is one of the blurred spots in my memory, but I remember that the process went fairly smoothly.

Changes: Delivery Rooms and Fainting Fathers

Childbirth, even when everything goes right, isn’t “routine”. Not in the sense of being unremarkable. It’s called labor for reasons, and I’ll let it go at that.

Something that’s changed since my youth is who’s around when a child is born.

Back then, at least near cities, most women gave birth in hospitals. The father would be on hand, but at a distance: in a waiting room, out of the way and fretting.

That was changing, slowly, in the 1960s.1 By the time my wife and I had our first child, letting me into the delivery room was acceptable. Along with not having my wife doped to the gills so she’d keep quiet, and that’s another topic.

Grudgingly acceptable, that is. Convincing the doctor took effort.

Somewhere along the line, I learned why some doctors preferred keeping fathers out of the delivery room. Seems that too often, a father would faint: adding the task of sliding a body out of the way to an already-intense process.

I wasn’t one of the fainting fathers.

In a way, it might have been easier on my wife if I had been.

Focused

I’d known in general terms what to expect during my wife’s labor.

There was a breathing routine I was expected to remind her about during contractions. I’m not sure how much good that did. Not the breathing: my alleged help. She knew the routine perfectly well.

My wife also stayed focused throughout. Make that almost throughout. During transition, that’s when the cervix is dilated from eight to ten centimeters,2 she did cry. Briefly.

She was and is not prone to emotional outbursts. At all. Getting her to cry would be like getting Sherlock Holmes to giggle.

The medicos had been poking needles into her, and her veins were not cooperating. My wife says that during transition is not the time to play find-the-vein. I think she’s right.

Ideally, she could have voiced that opinion clearly and eloquently at the time. But, well, there was quite a great deal happening that demanded her full attention.

New Experiences and Evaporative Cooling

She didn’t, for example, tell me that I should stop leaning on her. Not until later, when our oldest daughter was out and we all had a little time on our hands.

I wasn’t one of those fainting fathers, this was our firstborn child. I was excited: and that’s putting it mildly.

Things had progressed to the point where the top of our child’s head was visible. I’d known that our heads change shape as we go through the birth canal. What I hadn’t known was what it would look like.

The first part of our firstborn I saw was the top of her head. Aside from the size and color, it looked like a walnut.

That’s what I told my wife, right then, excitedly: while leaning on her. Later, she let me know that this was not a good idea. Leaning on her, I mean. She’d have told me right then and there, but — mothers may multitask, but not during delivery.

Getting back to that first look at our newborn, her head promptly popped into a more conventional baby-shape as the rest of her came out.

At the time, something that was part of the hospital’s childbirth process was having me (carefully) hold our daughter, lowering her into a body-temperature basin of water.

I think she liked it. As soon as she was mostly-immersed, she turned her head — I think it was to the left.

Pursing her lips, she methodically extended that arm and drew it back, keeping her hand even with her shoulder. Turning her head the other way, she did the same with the other arm. My guess is that she was taking in the experience of being able to extend her arms.

Then I lifted her out of the water. She experienced evaporative cooling.3 And screamed. She still does not like that experience.

A Couple Details

I think my wife’s first close look at our first daughter was when they ‘plopped her on her belly’ and dried her off. We were both very happy about our little one, and I’ll leave it at that.

Except for another detail.

We have had, in several senses of the term, colorful babies.

When she first came out, our oldest daughter was orange. That’s not usual. The reason her head looked like a tangerine has a scary name — infantile jaundice — but it’s treatable, temporary, and not a huge problem.4

Years later, when our son was born, he was purple; until his lungs made up a temporary oxygen deficit. Again, not a huge problem.

And like I said, colorful.

Baptism of Desire, Uncertainty, and Hope

Brian H. Gill's photo: Our Lady of Angels' Marian garden. (July 2013)
Our Lady of Angels’ Marian Garden: a good place to sit and think. (2013)

All told, my wife and I have had six children. We’ve gotten to know four of them: the ones who survived.

Those four were baptized, the other two weren’t. The reason was, basically, that you can’t baptize a corpse.

About that —

Baptism matters, a lot. It makes entering the kingdom of God an option. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1214-1274)

One of our children died in what this culture calls a miscarriage, the other experienced a stillbirth: and we nearly lost my wife in the process.

I am profoundly glad that my wife lived, I still grieve for Joy and Elizabeth, and — although I realize it’s impossible — I wish they could have been baptized.

The experiences did, however, result in my learning about what the church has been saying for the last 15 or so centuries about baptism and infants.

So far, we know that baptism is vitally important; that some infants, through no fault of their own, aren’t or can’t be baptized: and we don’t know how that affects their salvation.

Maybe it’d be easier to do an opinion poll and see what most folks want to be true, but the Church doesn’t work that way.

Instead, I can remember that something like a “Baptism of desire” has been discussed: and hope that I’m right about God being good, just, and merciful. I’m pretty sure about that, I’m counting on “merciful”, and that’s yet another topic. Topics.

Here’s a sample of what I found:

“…the Church does not know of any other means which would certainly give little children access to eternal life. However, the Church has also traditionally recognized some substitutions for Baptism of water (which is the sacramental incorporation into the mystery of Christ dead and risen), namely, Baptism of blood (incorporation into Christ by witness of martyrdom for Christ) and Baptism of desire (incorporation into Christ by the desire or longing for sacramental Baptism). During the 20th century, some theologians, developing certain more ancient theological theses, proposed to recognize for little children either some kind of Baptism of blood (by taking into consideration the suffering and death of these infants), or some kind of Baptism of desire (by invoking an ‘unconscious desire’ for Baptism in these infants oriented toward justification, or the desire of the Church). The proposals invoking some kind of Baptism of desire or Baptism of blood, however, involved certain difficulties….”
(“The hope of salvation for infants who die without being baptised” , International Theological Commission (2007)[emphasis mine])

I’ve talked about some of this, and how I see changing attitudes about infants, before:


1 Some changes have been for the better:

2 Took a little effort, but I found a brief description of transition in labor:

3 Details:

4 Baptism of desire (hope is an option):

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Catholic School Mass: Murder in the Morning

Two children, ages eight and 10, went to school this morning.

They won’t be going home.

Somebody decided that this would be a good morning to spray bullets into a church full of people. Why the 20-something (probably) man made that decision is an open question, and may remain so. He killed himself after committing murder.

This happened in Minneapolis, Minnesota, near West 54th Street, where it becomes Diamond Lake Road. (Google Maps)

That’s the gist of what I saw in the news around noon today:

“Two children are dead, two other children are in critical condition, and a total of 17 people are injured following a Wednesday morning shooting at Church of the Annunciation in southwest Minneapolis, according to police.

“Police say the shooter, a man in his 20s, opened fire during an all-school mass held at 8:15 a.m. Wednesday, when dozens of Annunciation Catholic School students and other worshippers were gathered in the adjoining church….

“…During a news conference, MPD Chief Brian O’Hara confirmed that an 8-year-old and a 10-year-old were killed and two other children are in critical condition. He said 17 people were injured, in addition to the children who died….”
(“Live updates: 2 children killed, 17 injured as shooter opens fire at Minneapolis church” , BringMeTheNews (August 27, 2025))

“…’This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children and other people worshiping,’ [Minneapolis Police Chief Brian] O’Hara said. ‘The sheer cruelty and cowardice of firing into a church full of children, it’s absolutely incomprehensible.’ …”
(“Annunciation Church Minneapolis: What’s known about shooting suspect” , Megan Ziegler, FOX 9 KMSP (August 27, 2025))

“…Dating to 1923, the pre-kindergarten through eighth grade school had an all-school Mass scheduled at 8:15 a.m. Wednesday morning, according to its website. Monday was the first day of school….”
(“Annunciation Church school shooting: What we know about the victims” , Chris Williams, FOX 9 KMSP (August 27, 2025))

I’m not, putting it mildly, happy about this. I’ll probably be angry, as soon as the disgust I’m feeling eases off.

As for what I think about what happened:

  • Human life is precious, a gift from God
  • Murder is a bad idea and we shouldn’t do it
  • Suicide is a bad idea and we shouldn’t do it
  • Attacking places of worship isn’t nice

I’ve talked about that, emotions, and trying to make sense, before:


Later: 3:00 p.m. CDT, 20:00 UTC; August 27, 2025

It’s early days, a few items about the person who committed murder and suicide are popping up.

My guess is by tomorrow news coverage, if it continues, will focus on the weapons used, rather than the perpetrator’s possible motives.

I’m also guessing that he was not thinking straight: or maybe was under the impression that the Catholic Church is part of a Jewish plot. That’s assuming that any thought was involved.

Anyway, here’s a sample:

“…posted two YouTube videos, one ten minutes and the other twenty minutes long, showing writings that reference suicide, depression, ‘extremely violent thoughts and ideas,’ as well as an apology addressed ‘to my family and friends’ and a drawing of the layout of a church. A video also showed a number of guns, bullets and magazines. Messages were written on the guns, including antisemitic, and racist phrases and a message saying ‘Kill Donald Trump’. The channel was taken down shortly after the uploads….[33][34]”
(Annunciation Catholic Church shooting, Wikipedia (copied August 27, 2025) [33 “Alleged attacker uploaded videos earlier today”. BBC News. August 27, 2025. Retrieved August 27, 2025.][34 “Suspect identified as Robin Westman, multiple sources say”. NBC News. August 27, 2025. Retrieved August 27, 2025.])

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A Stained Glass Window, a Baron, Initiative and Rules

Google Maps: Liechtenstein (upper right) and Sion, Switzerland, (lower left).
Liechtenstein (upper right), Sion (inset, lower left); north side of the Alps.

It’s been about a half-century since I worked for the Red River Valley Historical Society. Articles I wrote for their Red River Valley Heritage Press are in the MSMM Archives, and that’s another topic.1

Something I liked about that historical society is that it focused on what I think of as my ‘home turf’: the Red River Valley of the North. It’s some of the flattest land, and best farmland, on the planet.

When it’s mentioned at all, it’s in the context of 19th century treaty violations. Or the latest spring floods.2 And I’m drifting off-topic again.

The point is that while I was working for that outfit, we had a meeting with folks in Winnipeg, Canada — and got a tour of one of Winnipeg’s old houses.

After a half-century, all I remember about it — in any detail — is our tour guide’s account of how a stained glass window narrowly escaped destruction.

I don’t remember his name. But I do remember that somewhere along the line he said that he was, thanks to his ancestors, the 12th baron of Shaan. Or maybe Schön — there are a few places in Liechtenstein and Switzerland with names like that.3

He described the ‘barony’ as a few blocks in some town: his title gave him no economic benefit, but allowed him a few minor ceremonial perks. Which may explain why he was living in Winnipeg.

Anyway, here’s what he told us about his interest in a particular stained glass window.

Initiative, Theft; Tomayto, Tomahto

A few years earlier, this historic building had been in bad shape. Worse, from the viewpoint of folks who were trying to restore it, it was scheduled for demolition. I don’t remember details, but I think there was a hold-up in transferring ownership.

Was tearing the house down a good idea? Depends on how you look at it.

It might have been more cost-effective to tear the old wreck down and replace it with something blandly contemporary.

But Winnipeg would have lost one of its historic landmarks, and a beautiful stained glass window would have been destroyed.

Octavio Alonso Maya's photo: the Gran Vitral Tiffany del Hotel Ciudad de Mexico (ca. 2012) via Wikipedia, used w/o permission. See https://web.archive.org/web/20161024202757/http:/www.panoramio.com/user/5358119?with_photo_id=80130778
Gran Vitral Tiffany del Hotel Ciudad de Mexico
(Great Tiffany Stained Glass Window at the Hotel Ciudad de Mexico). Octavio Alonso Maya’s photo.

Considering the value folks put on stained glass art, that last bit — destroying a work of art — struck me as odd.

My guess is that someone figured there wouldn’t be enough profit in having the window removed and sold.

I think spending time and materials to preserve the window would have been a good idea. But I’m emphatically not involved in urban development.

Although I think life’s financial side matters, I also think there’s more to life than a high profit margin. Much more.

Seizing an Opportunity: and a Window

As our guide told it, with one day left before demolition, he unobtrusively slipped into the condemned building, removed the window, and took it to a nice, quiet place.

Within 24 hours, the building’s ownership SNAFU got resolved and its new owners noticed that they were one stained glass window short.

Being reasonable people, they said ‘we want our window back, no questions asked’. Communication followed, and the stained glass window was returned as quietly as it had been extracted.

Was removing that window illegal? Almost certainly.

I don’t know much about Winnipeg’s, Manitoba’s, or Canada’s law. But entering a building you don’t own and leaving with one of its windows without getting permission sounds like theft to me.

Was it wrong?

That’s a good question.

Theft: Getting Technical

There are a few actions that actually are wrong. Theft is one of them.

“You shall not steal.”
(Exodus 20:15)

Okay. That’s straightforward enough.

Theft is wrong. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2408)

But — we’re talking about humans here, so it’s not quite that simple.

For starters, there’s “the reasonable will of the owner”. And sometimes theft looks like good, or clever, business. Shortchanging employees, not delivering goods or services that were paid for — basically, “theft” comes in many shapes and sizes, and it’s complicated. (Catechism, 2407-2414, for starters)

Now: was our tour guide’s removal of that stained glass window wrong?

“Legal” May Not be Right

Dick Orkin's Chickenman, fighting crime and/or evil: see superheroes.fandom.com/wiki/Chickenman http://www.the60sofficialsite.com/Chickenman.html https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,843884,00.html
“Fighting crime and/or evil”:
Dick Orkin’s Chickenman. (1966-1969)

I don’t know if it’s growing up in the Sixties, or my Irish heritage: but I’m not horrified at our tour guide’s flagrant disregard for law and order.4

Particularly since his intent was preserving the window: and that he returned it to its now-legal owners as soon as there was a reasonable chance that it wouldn’t be destroyed.

On the other hand, the odds are that if the old house had been demolished, he’d have found a buyer for the window.

Like I said, it’s complicated.

Thinking that something can be legal and still be wrong, and that doing something illegal may be right, started making a lot more sense in the Sixties.

Now that I’m a Catholic, I have to believe that what’s right and what’s legal aren’t necessarily the same thing. (Catechism, 1954-1960, 2273)

But, since I’m a Catholic, I should show obedience to, and respect for, authority. Reasoned obedience: not blindly doing whatever I’m told. (Catechism, 1900-1903, 2242-2243)

Again: complicated.

Believing that what a government says is right may be, in fact, wrong was counter-cultural in my youth. It still is.

All that’s changed are the details, and that’s yet another topic.

Detail, Gentile da Fabriano's 'Valle Romita Polyptych.' (ca. 1411)
Detail, Gentile da Fabriano’s “Valle Romita Polyptych.” (ca. 1411)

I’ve talked about natural law, principles that are part of reality; and positive law, rules that we make up,5 before:


1 Researched, written, printed, archived:

2 My homeland, from the dominant culture’s perspective:

3 A sample of what I found, looking for Shaan, Schön, or some place that sounds like that:

4 My heritage includes blood feuds and cattle raids, but neither are part of my life:

  • Wikipedia
    • Njáls saga (Burnt Njáll: ‘you can burn me alive, but you can’t make me care!’)
    • Táin Bó Cúailnge (AKA Cattle Raid of Cooley) (these folks valued their livestock)

5 Constants and variables:

  • Wikipedia
    • Natural law (Unchanging principles, laws that are part of reality)
    • Positive law (Rules we make up) (Sounds cooler in Latin: ius positum)
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Stearns County Fair 2025: Lightning, Hail, and Then Blue Skies

Brian H. Gill's photo: Saturday afternoon at the Stearns County Fair. (August 9, 2025)
Stearns County Fair, Saturday afternoon. (August 9, 2025)
Brian H. Gill's photo: Stearns County Fair. (July 28, 2012)
Stearns County Fair, concessions between the Midway and the barns. (2012)

I took that picture of the Stearns County Fair while coming back from an errand last Saturday.

It’s about as close to being there as I’ve gotten in the last several years.

But since this household isn’t much more than a thousand feet from the fairground entrance, I get to see folks parked on the side street. Or, rather, I see the vehicles they’ve parked there. Sometimes my timing is right and I see them heading toward or returning from the festivities.

My favorite memory this year was seeing a young family — dad and a little girl — heading back to their car. It was late Saturday afternoon. My guess is that the little girl would have been okay with spending a few more hours at the fair. Holding at least two balloons, she hopped every second step or so. The dad proceeded at a more measured pace.

A Storm, Sirens, and Justifiable Caution

Weather.gov's radar for Sauk Centre, Minnesota, area, August 8, 2025: Friday evening thunderstorm, around the time that sirens went off here in Sauk Centre
Weather.gov radar map: Sauk Centre, Minnesota, area; strong thunder storm. (August 8, 2025)

Friday evening usually brings a great many folks to the fairgrounds, but I didn’t notice as much traffic this year. That could be because the day’s forecast included storms. And, sure enough, later that evening a line of thunderstorms started heading our way.

Sauk Centre’s warning sirens went off about 10:25 p.m. — so we headed for our bad-weather positions. Which, in my case, is at the foot of the stairs leading to the second floor.

The storm that clipped Sauk Centre’s west side didn’t look all that perilous on radar, so we figured that sounding the sirens was ‘out of an abundance of caution’. That much lightning, and any amount of hail, could be bad news for anyone out in the open.

Later, when the sirens stopped and the storm was obviously missing us, I checked out what the Weather Service said about the situation. Looks like our spotters noticed something that wasn’t obvious. Which is why we have spotters.

TORNADO…POSSIBLE
HAIL THREAT…RADAR INDICATED
MAX HAIL SIZE…1.00 IN
WIND THREAT…RADAR INDICATED
MAX WIND GUST…60 MPH
(National Weather Service information, weather.gov (August 8, 2025)

That’s all I’ve got for this week.

I’ve talked about vaguely-related stuff before:

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If She Wants a Door, She Gets a Door

Google Street View: Traill County (North Dakota) Highway 11 near Goose River, looking south. (August 2012)
Scenic, no. Good farmland, yes. Red River Valley, near the Goose River, looking south.

My oldest daughter suggested that I start telling ‘family stories’ about eight months back: which struck me as a good idea.

This week’s, involving a door and — I think — showing where I get some of my attitudes and priorities, got me started looking for places in one of my ancestral homelands.

I’ll be talking about that; and, eventually, what happened when a husband’s idea of what’s good enough didn’t line up with his wife’s.


Surnames and Ancestry, Mostly

Most folks on my father’s side of the family had been in this country for generations when my mother’s grandfather and grandmother came over.

That may account, at least partly, for how easily I sorted out the Arba Zeri Campbell >Floss (née Campbell) Gill > Bernard I. Gill > me line of descent.

Besides being more recent immigrants, My mother’s people were from Norway: Norwegians, but not those blonde giants.

I’ve run into a few versions of how we handled surnames, but will talk about what I’ve gathered: without diving down assorted rabbit holes. The way it worked was apparently that daughters would be [given name] [parent’s name + datter]. The parent being the father. Don’t quote me on this: I’m just dipping into my memory.

I’m not sure, but I suspect that an “Ole Olsen Sr.” I found may be my great grandfather, Ole O. Hovde Sr. — if that’s the case, the one-year difference in birth date might stem from a typo.

One reason I suspect those are two names for one person is a few coincidences: the “Olsen Sr.” has a brother Lars, he came to the Goose River area at the same time as my great grandfather: and is related to someone I knew as Aunt Mattie.1

My guess is that historians run into this sort of thing fairly often, when hunting facts in source documents.

At any rate, I’ve got a family story to share this week: involving, maybe, my great grandfather Ole O. Hovde Sr.

A Place in Ottertail County: Scenic, But Not Practical

Scott Backstrom's photo: Maplewood State Park, in Ottertail County, Minnesota. (October 6, 2003) via Wikimedia
Scott Backstrom’s photo: Maplewood State Park, in Ottertail County, Minnesota. (2003)

Before that, though, a little clarification about what what I posted earlier this week:

“…Finally arriving at Ottertail County, Ole didn’t like the area and so decided to go on to the Goose River valley with some of the group. Mari and some of the other women stayed behind while Ole and the men went on. They hit the Goose River about a mile west of where Hillsboro [North Dakota] is now….”
(“Four Generations in America” (August 6, 2025)) [emphasis mine]

My guess, and it’s just a guess, is that Ole Sr. liked the land in Ottertail County just fine.

My folks and I found the place: not in Maplewood State Park, but the same sort of land you see in that photo. I don’t remember what year. It’s something of a Minnesota beauty-spot, with picturesque hills. And trees. And rocks. Lots of rocks.

Probably looks like the part of Norway he came from.

But it’s not good farmland.

So I figure Ole Sr. preferred land where growing crops wouldn’t be as challenging.

Now, another point or two about names.

Names, Language, Accents, and Legacies

Google Maps: Gjøvik, Oppland, Norway. (August 6, 2025)
Nordre Land Municipality (including Hugulia, Aust-Torpa) and Gjøvik area, Norway.
Google Maps: Hovde, in Beridalen, Nordre Land, Norway. (August 5, 2025)
From “Four Generations in America” (Aug. 6, 2025):
Hovde, in Beridalen, Nordre Land, Norway: about 110 miles north of Oslo.

I mentioned “Gjørvik, Nordre Land, Norway” in that 1972 paper. Just one problem: there is no “Gjørvik” in Norway, not that I could find.

“Gjørvik” may be how my part of the family pronounced Gjøvik, a town in Norway that’s east and a little south of where I figure my great-grandfather grew up.

The Nordre Land municipality is still there, but Oppland county isn’t: the folks in charge merged it and Hedmark in 2020, giving us Innlandet.

Next, about language and accent.

I grew up in the Upper Midwest, but speak with something close to what used to be called broadcast standard. I gather it’s General American English now.2

That might be partly because my folks and I lived a block or so away from a college campus. But I figure it’s also because both my parents were slightly deaf: and didn’t realize it until I was grown. Speaking clearly was a high priority for me. Still is.

Changes — or — Seeking Lost Branting and Beridalen

Another thing or three about names —

In “Four Generations in America” I said that my great-grandfather Ole O. Hovde Sr. was born in “1840 at Hovde, Branting in Beridalen, Gjørvik, Nordre Land, Norway”.

Clear enough, right? Well, maybe.

I found a whole mess of Hovde-something place names; including a Hovdevatnet lake, and a hill/mountain called just plain Hovde. But didn’t find a Branting, Beridalen, or Gjorvik. Gjorvik I’ve already talked about. But, again, I couldn’t find a place called Branting.

There’s a Swedish politico whose surname is Branting, which might have been a toponymic surname, like Hovde almost certainly is. “Toponymic surname” is academese for a family name that’s based on a place name. Maybe there was another place in Norway called Branting, and it’s been re-named.

I couldn’t find a Beridalen, either. But I did find Biri, a village that’s east of the area with “Hovde” place-names. Maybe Biri is how Beri’s written these days. And maybe that village was in Beridalen, and still is. Or would be, if the names hadn’t shifted a bit in the last couple centuries.

Speaking of which, there were and almost certainly still are a great many versions of the Norwegian language. But these days only Nynorsk and Bokmål are official: for written Norwegian, at any rate.3 Those are rabbit holes that I’ll ignore this week.

“An Interesting Pattern”

Something that struck me as I was looking for places, based on names my family remembered from the mid-19th century, was how many details can get lost in the shuffle — and how much I don’t remember.

That, and maybe some insight on why my folks encouraged me to speak clearly.

I was going to ramble on about that. But this excerpt from a chat my oldest daughter and I had Tuesday evening covers the important points:

[oldest daughter] “…I hadn’t heard that Ole Jr. was particularly interested in Grandma speaking ‘unaccented’ English. I’d heard that Great-Grandma Gunda had been teased at school for not knowing much English, so she very much wanted to make sure her daughter was fluent.”

[me] “Oh, yeah – – – both sides were highly motivated to have Dorothy ‘speak American’ 😉 ”
[oldest daughter] “To Grandma’s annoyance.
“It’s an interesting pattern. The immigrants and their children are all too eager to drop their native language and culture like it’s radioactive. The following generations profoundly wish they hadn’t.
“I wish I had a tape recorder going every time Grandpa Gill talked….”
(Discord chat (August 5, 2025))

Priorities and a Door

Finally, the ‘family story’ that I planned to share this week.

I’m not sure which couple this was: they were on my mother’s side of the family, and might have been Mari and Ole O. Sr. — but I can’t be sure. Not now.

Anyway, they’d both moved into a house — residence, at any rate — near the Goose River. The place was habitable, but lacked one of the modern amenities: a door.

He apparently had thought, probably with reason, that whatever makeshift arrangement he’d made to keep weather and critters on the outside was good enough: particularly since he hadn’t built a permanent house yet.

She had an alternative viewpoint. They were living there, this was their home, and she wanted a door. A door. Not whatever he figured was good enough for now.

So he went back to Ottertail County and got a door.

These days, that’s a drive: something like 105 miles, 170 kilometers: an hour and 45 minutes, give or take, in good weather.

Getting there and back 1871 or 1872 took longer.

The way I remember it, her husband walked to the nearest store — in Ottertail County — and back. Carrying the door.

I believe it, since wasting a valuable horse’s time — time that could have been better spent cultivating, or hauling, up in the Red River Valley — wouldn’t have made sense.

Besides, she wanted a door. So he went and got her a door.

Family, Names, and Links

Wrapping things up this week —

Families matter. Names are a cultural, and sometimes a political, thing.

I’ve talked about this before:


1 A few more names:

  • Family Search
    • Lars Olsen 10 September 1836-9 August 1893
    • Mattie Hovde 4 May 1875-22 August 1963
    • Ole Olsen Sr. 23 October 1839-15 November 1924
      (born in Snertingdal, Gjøvik, Oppland, Norway)
      (this may be my great-grandfather Ole O. Hovde)

2 Language and some places in Norway/Norge:

3 Languages and places in Norway:

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