{"id":3667,"date":"2020-01-11T22:13:25","date_gmt":"2020-01-11T22:13:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/?p=3667"},"modified":"2025-08-26T23:10:49","modified_gmt":"2025-08-26T23:10:49","slug":"the-baptism-of-jesus-and-my-kids","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/the-baptism-of-jesus-and-my-kids\/","title":{"rendered":"The Baptism of Jesus, and My Kids"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Baptism_of_Jesus#Artistic_depictions\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20190916ff\/20200106-800px-Gerard_David_-_Triptych_of_Jan_Des_Trompes_-_WGA6031-658.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Last week I said &#8220;we celebrate our Lord&#8217;s adoration by the magi, his baptism and the wedding feast at Cana.&#8221; I&#8217;d been talking about Epiphany.<\/p>\n<p>So how come this Sunday is the Feast of the Baptism of the Lord? It seems redundant.<\/p>\n<p>Basically, it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m a Catholic and an American. And because it&#8217;s been two millennia since our Lord gave Simon a new name and scary responsibility. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/matthew\/16#48016016\">Matthew 16:16<\/a>&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/matthew\/16#48016019\">19<\/a>)<\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"changes\"><\/a>Changes<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/saints-romans-emperors\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20190506ff\/20190514-800px-Puente_Romano_y_Puente_de_Lusitania%2C_M%C3%A9rida-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a>Quite a bit&#8217;s happened since then.<\/p>\n<p>The Pax Romana ended with Commodus and the Year of the Five Emperors. (Yes, American politics could be worse.)<\/p>\n<p>Constantine decriminalized Christianity. The Roman Empire transitioned from major power to nostalgic memory.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/the-baptism-of-jesus-and-my-kids\/#1\">1<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Charlemagne was a major player in Europe when Pope St. Leo III was kidnapped.<\/p>\n<p>A couple of Charlemagne&#8217;s envoys, backed by considerable muscle, interfered. Pope St. Leo III said Charlemagne was Emperor of the Romans on Christmas in the year 800.<\/p>\n<p>Likely enough, that&#8217;s when Charlemagne started calling his territory the R\u00f6misches Reich or Imperium Romanum, depending on which language was appropriate in context.<\/p>\n<p>Either way, it&#8217;s &#8220;Roman Empire&#8221; in my language. It wasn&#8217;t the Holy Roman Empire until the Imperial Diet of Cologne&#8217;s 1512 decree. Or 1557, when Frederick I Barbarossa&#8217;s empire was called &#8220;holy&#8221; in some document.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/the-baptism-of-jesus-and-my-kids\/#2\">2<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Like pretty much everything else involving humans, it&#8217;s complicated.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll give Charlemagne and Frederick I Barbarossa credit for political savvy. &#8220;Roman Empire&#8221; arguably held considerable mystique in the early 9th century. The same goes for &#8220;Holy Roman Empire&#8221; in 1512. Or 1557. Or whenever.<\/p>\n<p>I also think Voltaire had a point.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Ce corps qui s&#8217;appelait et qui s&#8217;appelle encore le saint empire romain n&#8217;\u00e9tait en aucune mani\u00e8re ni saint, ni romain, ni empire.<br \/>\n&#8220;This body which called itself and which still calls itself the Holy Roman Empire was in no way holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.&#8221;<br \/>\n(<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikiquote.org\/wiki\/Voltaire\">Voltaire<\/a>, via Wikiquote)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Fast-forward about seven centuries from Charlemagne.<\/p>\n<p>The Renaissance was getting traction. And someone you probably never heard of painted a triptych for Jan Des Trompes \u2014 a city treasurer with even less name recognition.<\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"anachronism\"><\/a>Anachronism<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Baptism_of_Jesus#Artistic_depictions\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20190916ff\/20200106-800px-Gerard_David_-_Triptych_of_Jan_Des_Trompes_-_WGA6031-detail-658.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">(From Gerard Davic, via Wikimedia Commons, used w\/o permission.)<\/span><br \/>\n(Detail of Gerard David&#8217;s &#8216;baptism&#8217; triptych. (ca. 1505))<\/p>\n<p>Around the time Leonardo da Vinci was working on the Mona Lisa, Gerard David painted a triptych of our Lord&#8217;s baptism.<\/p>\n<p>Gerard David was an Early Netherlandish or Flemish Primitive artist. He was unimaginative. Or a mere imitator of greater artists. Or progressive. Opinions vary.<\/p>\n<p>He had a successful career, died in 1523 and was forgotten. Until the 1860s, and that&#8217;s another topic.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, Gerard David put Jan Des Trompes and his family in the baptism triptych. Plus St. Elizabeth of Hungary and others. Understandably, I figure, since Jan Des Trompes commissioned the piece.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a lot of symbolism and imagery going on here, but what jumped out at me was the anachronistic clothing.<\/p>\n<p>The Trompes women and girls are wearing what someone at the University of Vermont called &#8220;transitional gowns&#8221; \u2014 &#8220;Moving towards the square neckline, full sleeves, natural waistline and separate bodice and skirt construction of the 16th century.&#8221;<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/the-baptism-of-jesus-and-my-kids\/#3\">3<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>And they&#8217;re wearing hoods. Sort of.<\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"everyday\"><\/a>Everyday Clothing and Monastic Uniforms<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tr%C3%A8s_Riches_Heures_du_Duc_de_Berry#Calendar_gallery\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20190630ff\/20150930-Heures_du_duc_de_Berry_juin-detail-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a>European men&#8217;s and women&#8217;s headwear varied from utilitarian scarves to escoffions and hennins \u2014 those things that look like birds&#8217; nests and steeples.<\/p>\n<p>Liripipes, too. And guimpes.<\/p>\n<p>Apparel above and beyond reason inspired sumptuary laws. Lawmakers probably had other motives, too.<\/p>\n<p>Rules about clothing and accessories have been around at least since Zaleucus wrote that a freeborn woman couldn&#8217;t have more than one slave tagging along, unless she was drunk. The freeborn woman, that is. And I&#8217;m drifting off-topic.<\/p>\n<p>The Trompes headgear might be wimples, if they&#8217;d wrapped around the neck and chin. The headgear, I mean.<\/p>\n<p>The ladies&#8217; wardrobe was normal for moderately prosperous women in Europe during the early 1500s. But not the river Jordan&#8217;s banks in John the Baptist&#8217;s day. To my eye, it&#8217;s like a picture of Charlemagne in a belted tunic accompanied by someone wearing a jumpsuit.<\/p>\n<p>Five centuries after Gerard David painted them, the transitional gowns and hoods look vaguely monastic.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s because many of today&#8217;s monastic uniforms began as everyday clothing. And everyday clothing has changed since St. Pachomius defined the Pachomian habit.<\/p>\n<p>More than a dozen centuries after St. Pachomius, we&#8217;ve accumulated a vast supply of traditions (lower-case &#8220;t&#8221;) and rules. Some of them are still in use, some aren&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>If the traditions didn&#8217;t exist, my guess is that members of a monastic order starting today would be wearing jeans and flannel shirts during the 25th century.<\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s yet another topic.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/the-baptism-of-jesus-and-my-kids\/#4\">4<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"Jesus\"><\/a>Jesus at the Jordan<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/polka-mass-and-adoration\/#constants\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20130220ff\/2000YearsAndCounting-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a>Matthew, Mark and Luke talk about our Lord&#8217;s baptism. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/matthew\/3#48003013\">Matthew 3:13<\/a>&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/matthew\/3#48003017\">17<\/a>; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/mark\/1#49001009\">Mark 1:9<\/a>&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/mark\/1#49001011\">11<\/a>; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/luke\/3#50003021\">Luke 2:21<\/a>&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/luke\/3#50003022\">22<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>John&#8217;s gospel reports what John the Baptist said about Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>John the Baptist&#8217;s description of the Spirit coming down like a dove sounds like what&#8217;s in the other three gospels. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/john\/1#51001028\">John 1:28<\/a>&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/john\/1#51001034\">34<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Some &#8220;Baptism of Jesus&#8221; pictures look like Gerard David&#8217;s. Some don&#8217;t. Artistic styles have changed at least as much as clothing.<\/p>\n<p>But the &#8220;Baptism&#8221; pictures I&#8217;ve seen have one thing in common.<\/p>\n<p>Pretty much everyone present is presentable. They&#8217;re the sort of folks you&#8217;d expect to see in a Bible study or church choir. Decent. Well-respected.<\/p>\n<p>The Pharisees and Sadducees who came to the Baptist were presentable. By conventional standards. John the Baptist offered another perspective.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;When he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, &#8216;You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?&#8230;&#8221;<br \/>\n(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/matthew\/3#48003007\">Matthew 3:7<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That must have stung.<\/p>\n<p>The Pharisees and Sadducees were rubbing elbows with tax collectors, (Roman) soldiers and prostitutes. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/matthew\/21#48021032\">Matthew 21:32<\/a>; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/luke\/3#50003010\">Luke 3:10<\/a>&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/luke\/3#50003014\">14<\/a>; Catechism of the Catholic Church, 535)<\/p>\n<p>And this itinerant preacher with scruffy clothes was calling <strong>them<\/strong> a brood of vipers?!<\/p>\n<p>Maybe I&#8217;m being unfair about their motives. Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism might have realized that their lives didn&#8217;t match their clique&#8217;s squeaky-clean standards. And have been willing to admit it and repent.<\/p>\n<p>Jesus of Nazareth was another matter. Our Lord didn&#8217;t need &#8220;a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/luke\/3#50003003\">Luke 3:3<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>So what was Jesus doing there?<\/p>\n<p>I figure our Lord was identifying himself with sinners and starting his public ministry with a memorable and significant event. Our Lord&#8217;s baptism with water also prefigured his baptism by blood. And &#8216;fulfilled all righteousness.&#8217; (Catechism, 528, 535-537)<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s more to it, of course.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/the-baptism-of-jesus-and-my-kids\/#5\">5<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"baptism\"><\/a>Baptism, Rescheduling and Something New<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/choosing-light-or-darkness\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20170721ff\/20170811-600px-Rosace_cathedrale_strasbourg-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a>Baptism is important. Necessary.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the first sacrament.<\/p>\n<p>My baptism freed me from consequences of a really bad decision made by the first of us.<\/p>\n<p>About that: Original sin isn&#8217;t the notion that we&#8217;re garbage. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/divine-mercy-and-lnk\/#what\">September 19, 2018<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Our nature is wounded, not corrupted. We&#8217;re still made &#8220;in the divine image.&#8221; (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/divine-mercy\/#still\">April 23, 2017<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>My baptism was a rebirth in the Spirit. It makes entering the kingdom of God an option for me. (Catechism, 1213-1274)<\/p>\n<p>Like I said, baptism is important. Necessary. For me.<\/p>\n<p>For Jesus of Nazareth, Son of the Living God, not so much.<\/p>\n<p>Not for the same reasons, at any rate. God&#8217;s God, I&#8217;m not. Although I accepted God&#8217;s offer of adoption, and that&#8217;s yet again another topic. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/jesus-didnt-stay-dead\/#passing\">April 21, 2019<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Which gets me back to Feast of the Baptism of the Lord.<\/p>\n<p>Celebrating that event started as part of Epiphany. Centuries rolled by, and folks in my branch of Christendom got focused on the Magi during Epiphany.<\/p>\n<p>I gather that rescheduling the Feast of the Baptism of the Lord as a separate celebration happened in the 20th century.<\/p>\n<p>That probably upset folks who liked the Tridentine Calendar. And the Tridentine Calendar probably upset folks who thought the Council of Trent was a bad idea.<\/p>\n<p>Then, in 2002, Pope St. John Paul II added five luminous mysteries to the rosary. The Baptism of our Lord is the first of them.<\/p>\n<p>The Tridentine Calendar, Vatican II and Pope St. John Paul II&#8217;s luminous mysteries changed how we worship. Changed details. But not the essential details.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/the-baptism-of-jesus-and-my-kids\/#6\">6<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"indelible\"><\/a>An &#8220;Indelible Spiritual Mark&#8221;<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/miscarriage-stillbirth-and-hope\/#my\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20130220ff\/Thomas_Cole_-_The_Voyage_of_Life_Youth_1840_Munson-Williams-Proctor_Arts_Institute-329-detail.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a>Again, I think baptism is necessary.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the sacrament that makes it possible for me to enter the kingdom of God.<\/p>\n<p>When I became a Catholic, I didn&#8217;t have to decide whether or not to be baptized.<\/p>\n<p>My parents had baptized me as an infant, in a mainstream Protestant church.<\/p>\n<p>Baptism is a one-time thing. Mine left me with an &#8220;indelible spiritual mark&#8221; that can&#8217;t be erased. Or repeated. (Catechism, 1272)<\/p>\n<p>Baptism isn&#8217;t a &#8216;get out of hell free&#8217; card or a guarantee that I&#8217;ll enter heaven.<\/p>\n<p>I have free will. I decide to act as if what I believe is true \u2014 or not. Then, at my particular judgement, I&#8217;ll decide whether or not to finally accept salvation. (Catechism, 1020-1050; 1730-1742)<\/p>\n<p>Opting out of heaven strikes me as a daft idea, but it&#8217;s possible. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/death-funerals-and-life\/#life\">September 30, 2018<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/choosing-light-or-darkness\/#elect\">March 11, 2018<\/a>)<\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"options\"><\/a>Options, Knowledge and Hope<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/miscarriage-stillbirth-and-hope\/#stillbirth\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20160719ff\/20161007-400px-Old_Man_Grieving_-_Vincent_van_Gogh-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a>Given how I see baptism, you&#8217;d expect that my kids would have been baptized.<\/p>\n<p>Four have been. Two haven&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>My wife and I lost Joy in a miscarriage. Elizabeth died just before birth. The family almost lost my wife that time, too.<\/p>\n<p>In each case, our child was not baptized.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not happy about that.<\/p>\n<p>But I don&#8217;t see how I could have arranged for them to receive the sacrament.<\/p>\n<p>Things were hectic both times: particularly with Elizabeth&#8217;s stillbirth. And each time I didn&#8217;t know something was amiss until after they were dead.<\/p>\n<p>The rules say I shouldn&#8217;t delay baptism if an infant is in danger of death. (Code of Canon Law, Book IV, Part I, Title I, Chapter III, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/archive\/ENG1104\/_P2X.HTM#4.1.0.1.3.0.867\">867<\/a>&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/archive\/ENG1104\/_P2X.HTM#4.1.0.1.3.0.868\">868<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>But baptizing someone who&#8217;s already dead? That&#8217;s not an option. Not for Catholics.<\/p>\n<p>So, what&#8217;s happened to my two dead children?<\/p>\n<p>The short answer is \u2014 I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"ive\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/gnosticism\/#being\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20130220ff\/1024px-John_Martin_-_Pandemonium_-_WGA14149-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a>I&#8217;ve seen assertions that Catholics believe unbaptized infants go to hell. Maybe some Catholics believe that, but it&#8217;s not what the Church says.<\/p>\n<p>The last I checked, the Church&#8217;s position on unbaptized infants is that we don&#8217;t know. And that the matter is still being discussed.<\/p>\n<p>The notion that unbaptized kids go to hell probably comes from scholarly speculations during Europe&#8217;s Middle Ages. Putting it simply, the situation is not simple. Anything but.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/the-baptism-of-jesus-and-my-kids\/#7\">7<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Looking at it from another angle, it <strong>is<\/strong> simple.<\/p>\n<p>I couldn&#8217;t have Joy and Elizabeth baptized. They&#8217;re dead. So I must do what the Church does: &#8220;&#8230;entrust them to the mercy of God&#8230;.&#8221; (Catechism, 1261)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/choosing-light-or-darkness\/#working\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20181226ff\/20160408-BlueRiver-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\" \/><\/a>Which is pretty much what I have to do about myself. And that&#8217;s still another topic:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/divine-mercy-and-lnk\/\">Divine Mercy and Lawrence N. Kaas<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(September 19, 2018 )<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/trust-and-mercy\/\">Trust and Mercy<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\nGuest post (April 8, 2018)<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/god-love-and-clouds\/\">God, Love and Clouds<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(February 25, 2018)<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/choosing-light-or-darkness\/\">Choosing Light or Darkness<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(March 11, 2018)<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/miscarriage-stillbirth-and-hope\/\">Miscarriage, Stillbirth, and Hope<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(October 9, 2016)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<p><sup><a name=\"1\"><\/a>1<\/sup> &#8220;The grandeur that was Rome&#8221; <span style=\"font-size: small;\">(&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/To_Helen#Analysis\">To Hellen<\/a>,&#8221; E. A. Poe)<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Commodus\">Commodus<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Holy_Roman_Empire\">Holy Roman Empire<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Marcus_Aurelius\">Marcus Aurelius<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pax_Romana\">Pax Romana<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Year_of_the_Five_Emperors\">Year of the Five Emperors<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><sup><a name=\"2\"><\/a>2<\/sup> Empires, politics and all that:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Charlemagne\">Charlemagne<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Frederick_I,_Holy_Roman_Emperor\">Frederick I, Holy Roman Emperor<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Holy_Roman_Emperor\">Holy Roman Emperor<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Holy_Roman_Empire\">Holy Roman Empire<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Imperial_Diet_(Holy_Roman_Empire)\">Imperial Diet (Holy Roman Empire)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pope_Leo_III\">Pope Leo III<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/25188093\/The_Danish_Empire_and_Norway_s_Place_Therein\">The Danish Empire and Norway&#8217;s Place Therein<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\nIver B. Neumann, Morten Skumsrud Andersen; Scandinavica &#8211; International Journal of Scandinavian Studies (54 (1): 10-29)<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/history\/historic_figures\/charlemagne.shtml\">Charlemagne (c. 747 &#8211; c. 814)<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\nBBC History<\/li>\n<li>Viewpoints, including mine\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/epiphany-still-shining\/\">Epiphany: Still Shining<\/a>&#8221; (January 6, 2019)\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/epiphany-still-shining\/#perceptions\">Perceptions<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><sup><a name=\"3\"><\/a>3<\/sup> Anachronistic art:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Early_Netherlandish_painting\">Early Netherlandish painting<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gerard_David\">Gerard David<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mona_Lisa\">Mona Lisa<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Renaissance\">Renaissance<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Triptych\">Triptych<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.uvm.edu\/~hag\/sca\/15th\/\">15th Century Female Flemish Dress: A Portfolio of Images<\/a><br \/>\nHope A. Greenberg\/Alice Nele&#8217;s Collection, Society for Creative Anachronisms, Center for Teaching and Learning (CTL) University of Vermont<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.museabrugge.be\/en\/collections\/collections-museums-bruges\/het-doopsel-van-christus-gerard-david-ca-1502-1508\">The Baptism of Christ, Gerard David<\/a><br \/>\nMusea Brugge<\/li>\n<li>Flemish Primitives, Flemish Art Collection, Flemish Art Collection Website\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/vlaamseprimitieven.vlaamsekunstcollectie.be\/en\/biographies\/gerard-david\">Gerard David<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/vlaamseprimitieven.vlaamsekunstcollectie.be\/en\/collection\/baptism-of-christ\">Baptism of Christ<\/a>, Gerard David<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Gerard David, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wikiart.org\/en\/gerard-david\/the-baptism-of-christ-central-section-of-the-triptych\">The Baptism of Christ (Central section of the triptych)<\/a><br \/>\nWikiArt<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><sup><a name=\"4\"><\/a>4<\/sup> Clothing, rules and change:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cenobitic_monasticism\">Cenobitic monasticism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Early_medieval_European_dress\">Early medieval European dress<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gerard_David\">Gerard David<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Origins_of_ecclesiastical_vestments\">Origins of ecclesiastical vestments<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pachomius_the_Great\">Pachomius the Great<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Religious_habit\">Religious habit<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Religious_habit#Roman_Catholicism\">Roman Catholicism<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sumptuary_law\">Sumptuary law<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wimple\">Wimple<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zaleucus\">Zaleucus<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.encyclopedia.com\/religion\/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps\/religious-habit\">Religious Habit<\/a><br \/>\nEncyclopedia.com (Updated December 9, 2019)<\/li>\n<li>My take\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/renewed-and-expansive-hope\/#tradition\">&#8216;Renewed and Expansive Hope<\/a>&#8221; (June 18, 2017)\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/renewed-and-expansive-hope\/#tradition\">Tradition and Nostalgia<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><sup><a name=\"5\"><\/a>5<\/sup> Baptism of Jesus:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Baptism_of_Jesus\">Baptism of Jesus<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/prayer-and-worship\/prayers-and-devotions\/rosaries\/first-luminous-mystery-baptism-in-the-jordan.cfm\">First Luminous Mystery: BAPTISM IN THE JORDAN<\/a><br \/>\nUSCCB<\/li>\n<li>From Popes Francis and Benedict XVI\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/content\/francesco\/en\/angelus\/2019\/documents\/papa-francesco_angelus_20190113.html\">Angelus<\/a> Francis (January 13, 2019)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/w2.vatican.va\/content\/francesco\/en\/homilies\/2019\/documents\/papa-francesco_20190113_omelia-battesimo.html\">Feast of the Baptism of the Lord<\/a> Francis (January 13, 2019)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/content\/francesco\/en\/angelus\/2016\/documents\/papa-francesco_angelus_20160110.html\">Feast of the Baptism of the Lord<\/a> Francis (January 10, 2016)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/content\/benedict-xvi\/en\/homilies\/2013\/documents\/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20130113_battesimo.html\">Feast of the Baptism of the Lord<\/a> Benedict XVI (January 13, 2013)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><sup><a name=\"6\"><\/a>6<\/sup> Baptism and a feast:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Baptism_of_the_Lord\">Baptism of the Lord<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mass_(liturgy)\">Mass (liturgy)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tridentine_Calendar\">Tridentine Calendar<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tridentine_Mass\">Tridentine Mass<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/content\/john-paul-ii\/en\/apost_letters\/2002\/documents\/hf_jp-ii_apl_20021016_rosarium-virginis-mariae.html\">Rosarium Virginis Mariae on the Most Holy Rosary<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\nPope St. John Paul II (October 16, 2002)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/prayer-and-worship\/prayers-and-devotions\/rosaries\/first-luminous-mystery-baptism-in-the-jordan.cfm\">First Luminous Mystery: BAPTISM IN THE JORDAN<\/a><br \/>\nUSCCB<\/li>\n<li>Being part of the Catholic Church\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/polka-mass-and-adoration\/\">Polka Mass and Adoration<\/a>&#8221; (December 13, 2019)\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/polka-mass-and-adoration\/#this\">&#8220;This is My Body&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/citizenship-and-being-catholic\/\">Citizenship and Being Catholic<\/a>&#8221; (July 24, 2016)\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/citizenship-and-being-catholic\/#unity\">Unity, Diversity, and Christmas Trees<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/being-evangelical\/\">Being Evangelical<\/a>&#8221; (March 4, 2018)\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/being-evangelical\/#tradition\">Tradition<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><sup><a name=\"7\"><\/a>7<\/sup> What we known, what we don&#8217;t knonw:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>From the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Roman Curia\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/roman_curia\/congregations\/cfaith\/cti_documents\/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html\">The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die Without Being Baptised<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\nInternational Theological Commission (2007)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/roman_curia\/congregations\/cfaith\/cti_documents\/rc_cti_1990_problemi-attuali-escatologia_en.html\">Some Current Questions in Eschatology <\/a><br \/>\nInternational Theological Commission (1992)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/roman_curia\/congregations\/cfaith\/documents\/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19801020_pastoralis_actio_en.html\">Instruction on Infant Baptism<\/a><br \/>\n(1980)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>From my perspective\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/miscarriage-stillbirth-and-hope\/\">Miscarriage, Stillbirth, and Hope<\/a>&#8221; 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