{"id":2481,"date":"2018-04-21T00:03:16","date_gmt":"2018-04-21T00:03:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/?p=2481"},"modified":"2025-02-19T15:36:33","modified_gmt":"2025-02-19T15:36:33","slug":"gnosticism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/gnosticism\/","title":{"rendered":"Gnosticism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/god-doesnt-make-junk\/#God\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20130220ff\/20150430-rosetta20091113-browse-658.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Some folks act as if they think physical reality is bad and having a body is icky. The notion&#8217;s &#8216;Biblical,&#8217; sort of.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/galatians\/5#56005019\">Galatians 5:19<\/a> through <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/galatians\/5#56005021\">21<\/a> call bad ideas like licentiousness, hatreds and idolatry &#8220;works of the flesh.&#8221; With a little paraphrasing, I could claim that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/1corinthians\/3#54003003\">1 Corinthians 3:3<\/a> says jealousy and rivalry are &#8220;of the flesh.&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/romans\/8#53008003\">Romans 8:3<\/a> mentions &#8220;sinful flesh.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Taking those verses, ignoring <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/archive\/ENG0839\/_P3.HTM#PENT.GEN.1.31\">Genesis 1:31<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/psalms\/84#23084003\">Psalms 84:3<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/ecclesiastes\/2#25002024\">Ecclesiastes 2:24<\/a>&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/ecclesiastes\/2#25002025\">25<\/a> and two millennia of Catholic teaching, and I might see loathing physical reality as an option. But not, I think, a reasonable one. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/anxiety-optional\/#pleasure\">October 8, 2017<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Spiritual&#8221; isn&#8217;t necessarily good or bad. Neither is having a body. What matters is what I decide, how I use my reason and will. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1704-1707, 1730, 1852-1869)<br \/>\nI see sin as acting against reason, truth, and right conscience. (Catechism, 1849-1850)<\/p>\n<p>Any creature with free will can do that. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/changing-rules\/#that\">February 4, 2018<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/sin-original-and-otherwise\/#evil\">November 6, 2016<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Satan was and is pure spirit, with no body at all; which didn&#8217;t keep the spiritual creature from sinning on an epic scale. (Catechism, 328-330, 385-395)<\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"philosophers\"><\/a>Philosophers and Fame<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Metaphysics\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20180320ff\/20180419-Dualism-vs-Monism-658.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\"><\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\">(From Dustin Dewynne, via Wikimedia Commons, used w\/o permission.)<\/span><br \/>\n(Seeing reality as two things, dualism. Or one thing, monism.)<\/p>\n<p>Materialism\/physicalism and idealism are, in a way, two sides of the same coin. Both beliefs see reality as basically one thing. Like quite a few other views, materialism and idealism go back at least to what Jaspers called the Axial Age. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/materialism-robots-and-attitudes\/#kinda\">April 15, 2018<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Idealism assumes that consciousness, or something else immaterial, is the most basic part of reality. Plato may be the best-known idealist philosopher. He wasn&#8217;t alone. Anaxagoras said that nous, intellect, came first. Aristotle had pretty much the same view.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/gnosticism\/#1\">1<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p><a name=\"time\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/kic-8462852-and-strange-stars\/#God\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20160719ff\/20161130-450px-Aristoteles_Louvre-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\"><\/a>Time passed, Anaxagoras didn&#8217;t get noticed nearly as much as the other two, and some European scholars got overly-excited about Aristotle in the 1200s. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/science-faith-and-me\/#aristotle\">November 5, 2017<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, folks kept refurbishing and repackaging Plato&#8217;s and Aristotle&#8217;s ideas about ideals and forms.<\/p>\n<p>Versions with a Christian spin started popping up during the first century AD. They&#8217;ve been endemic ever since.<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"one\"><\/a>One of the earliest headliners was Valentinus. He taught in Alexandria and set up a school in Rome. That was in the second century AD.<\/p>\n<p>Saint Valentine is a different person and got killed for being a Christian. He wasn&#8217;t the first, or last, to decide truth is more important than this life.<\/p>\n<p>Valentinus, the fellow with a school, enjoyed considerable success. So did Valnetinianism, an intriguing alternative to Christianity.<\/p>\n<p>Valentinianism was a big deal in the 2nd century, not so much later.<\/p>\n<p>St. Irenaeus called the Valentinian school &#8220;he legomene gnostike haeresis:&#8221; &#8220;the heresy called Learned (Gnostic),&#8221; &#8220;the sect called Learned,&#8221; or something like that.<\/p>\n<p>Henry More coined the word &#8220;Gnosticism&#8221; in the 17th century. He was talking about a particular variation of Valentinus-style ideas. The name caught on as a handy label for that sort of anti-materialism.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Gnosticism&#8221; comes from Ancient Greek \u03b3\u03bd\u03c9\u03c3\u03c4\u03b9\u03ba\u03cc\u03c2\/gnostikos, &#8220;having knowledge.&#8221; I think Gnostic beliefs were at least partly inspired by Plato&#8217;s theory of forms; but they&#8217;re not quite idealism, Platonic or otherwise.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike idealism \u2014 and materialism \u2014 Gnosticism doesn&#8217;t necessarily say that everything&#8217;s basically one thing. I gather that a Gnostic might see physical reality as real: but not nice.<\/p>\n<p>Each variation of Gnosticism was and is unique, but they agree in seeing physical reality as something to shun. That&#8217;s an enormous over-simplification.<\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"exclusivity\"><\/a>Exclusivity Appeals<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/planet-9-maybe-nibiru-no\/#akkadian\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20130220ff\/d243fa307370012ee3c400163e41dd5b-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\"><\/a>&#8216;Secret knowledge&#8217; seems to be another popular feature in Gnostic beliefs.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/gnosticism\/#2\">2<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>I see the same exclusivity appeals in &#8216;learn ancient secrets&#8217; advertisements. Saw, actually. It&#8217;s been a long time since I&#8217;ve run into that sort of thing in a magazine.<\/p>\n<p>Selling the sizzle, not the steak, is effective advertising. I&#8217;ve heard that Elmer Wheeler said it in the 1920s. Advertising goes back at least to the Song Dynasty. And that&#8217;s another topic.<\/p>\n<p>I suspect sizzle helps sell my culture&#8217;s chronic End Times prognostications. They arguably give believers opportunities to see themselves as part of the cognoscente.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t take assorted &#8216;ancient knowledge&#8217; and Rapture claims seriously.<\/p>\n<p>Their effect on folks who believe them is another matter. So are impressions made on folks who see others getting duped. I think deliberately distorting truth is a serious violation of trust. (Catechism, Catechism, 2468, 2486)<\/p>\n<p>Deliberately presenting fiction as fact is a problem. Presenting fiction as fiction \u2014 I&#8217;ll get back to that.<\/p>\n<p>Gnostic notions and fizzling End Times predictions have been around for centuries. Millennia. Details vary, which isn&#8217;t surprising.<\/p>\n<p>First century Rome, 11th century Paris and 21st century Los Angeles were and are centers of culture and influence. But they&#8217;re not identical.<\/p>\n<p>Human nature doesn&#8217;t change. Not that I can see. Cultures are constantly changing. No competent publicist would ignore a target audience&#8217;s current perceptions.<\/p>\n<p>I haven&#8217;t seen &#8216;ancient secrets&#8217; ads in magazines recently. Maybe too many folks started thinking. Or maybe &#8216;truth in advertising&#8217; regulations caught up with them. Or, more likely, I&#8217;m not browsing through the same sort of periodicals now.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Secret knowledge&#8217; isn&#8217;t Gnosticism&#8217;s only attractive feature. I get the impression that denouncing physical reality is a cornerstone of faith for many folks, Gnostic and otherwise.<\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"being\"><\/a>Being Human<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/temperance-catholic-style\/#recapping\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20130220ff\/1024px-John_Martin_-_Pandemonium_-_WGA14149-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\"><\/a>I&#8217;ve encountered incandescent Christians of the fire and brimstone ilk raging against &#8220;works of the flesh.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t doubt that they&#8217;re sincere. The same goes for Carrie Nation and the &#8220;Reefer Madness&#8221; set. But I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re wrong. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/temperance-catholic-style\/#getting\">July 10, 2016<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Having a body isn&#8217;t a problem. How I decide to see my body, and how I act, can be. But being human, being a body and soul, is how God makes us. (Catechism, 362-379, 992, 2288-2291, 2331-2336)<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m okay with that. Even if I wasn&#8217;t, I wouldn&#8217;t see complaining about God&#8217;s design aesthetic as a good idea. I hope I&#8217;d have that much sense.<\/p>\n<p>The notion that being physical isn&#8217;t nice may play well to folks of fastidious spiritual tastes.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe believing &#8220;the Word became flesh,&#8221; as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/bible\/john\/1#51001014\">John 1:14<\/a> says, doesn&#8217;t feel sufficiently &#8216;spiritual.&#8217; But believing that the Son of God is human and divine comes with being a Catholic. (Catechism, 285, 456-478, 517)<\/p>\n<p>So does acknowledging that I&#8217;m human. I like understanding things, but see wisdom in recognizing limits. How the Incarnation works is beyond me. God is infinite, transcending time and space. Fully understanding God won&#8217;t happen. Learning what I can? That&#8217;s a good idea. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/god-love-and-clouds\/#Jesus\">February 25, 2018<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/taking-god-seriously\/#using\">August 20, 2017<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/oldest-human-fossils\/#this\">June 16, 2017<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Christian-themed Gnosticism probably has roots in Judeo-Christian traditions, Platonism and Neoplatonism. Or Neopythagoreanism, Persian and Hindi traditions, Zurvanite and Zoroastrian beliefs, and Buddhism. Or maybe all of those. Or something else.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s not, putting it mildly, a consensus.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/gnosticism\/#3\">3<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"knowledge\"><\/a>Knowledge and Choice<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/alien-life-notions-and-research\/#putting\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20171117ff\/ObservableUniverseToEarth-658-enh.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;To follow knowledge like a sinking star&#8230;&#8221; is my <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/112144784741365292059\">Google Plus<\/a> tagline. I might look like someone who&#8217;d become a Gnostic. Maybe I would. But it&#8217;s not likely.<\/p>\n<p>I like knowledge, a lot. I also enjoy flights of fancy. But confusing what&#8217;s real and what&#8217;s a product of human imagination doesn&#8217;t make sense.<\/p>\n<p>Neither does ignoring realities because I don&#8217;t like them, or believing that a figment of imagination is real.<\/p>\n<p>I can continue being a Catholic. Or I can believe that Jesus isn&#8217;t or couldn&#8217;t be human. Not both. I have to pick one or the other. (Catechism, 285, 465)<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve got free will, so in principle I could change my mind about what I think is true. But deciding to stop being a Catholic is about as improbable as it gets. I like being a Catholic, know why I joined, and keep finding more reasons to stay with the Church.<\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"cool\"><\/a>Cool Names<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Valentinianism#Sophia\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20180320ff\/20180418-402px-Valentinianpleroma-Matter-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\"><\/a>Being a Catholic doesn&#8217;t keep me from seeing what&#8217;s appealing in Gnosticism. Appealing to someone with my tastes and interests, anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Like that diagram. It&#8217;s from a book published in 1826, Jacques Matter&#8217;s &#8220;Histoire critique du Gnosticisme.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the Pl\u00e9rome de Valentin, showing how Valentinianism viewed reality.<\/p>\n<p>Valentinian&#8217;s version of reality has entities with cool names like le P\u00e8re, la Pens\u00e9e and des \u00e9ons.<\/p>\n<p>If I was reading about it in English, they&#8217;d be the Father, the Thought and the Aeons.<\/p>\n<p>If that sounds like some alternative liturgies you&#8217;ve run into, I&#8217;m not surprised. Like I said, Gnostic notions have been popping up for about two millennia: repackaged but recognizably Gnostic. The New Age<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/gnosticism\/#4\">4<\/a><\/sup> brand was popular recently. Still is, in some circles.<\/p>\n<p>I like cool names and imaginative alternate realities. But I don&#8217;t see a point in believing something because it&#8217;s cool, or because it&#8217;s kinda now and kinda wow.<\/p>\n<p>Or impressively ancient.<\/p>\n<p>And I know enough of what&#8217;s happened and what we&#8217;ve thought over the last few millennia to realize that many New Age ideas, for example, aren&#8217;t all that new. Some only go back a few centuries, at most. And that&#8217;s yet another topic.<\/p>\n<h4><a name=\"sub\"><\/a>Sub-Creation<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/a-writer-who-is-catholic\/#telling\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/20170501ff\/20170714-800px-De_Alice_Abenteuer_im_Wunderland_Carroll_pic_23_edited_1_of_2-329.jpg?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" align=\"right\"><\/a>I&#8217;ve known folks who don&#8217;t like fiction because &#8220;it&#8217;s not true.&#8221; Or dismiss myth for the same reason.<\/p>\n<p>I wouldn&#8217;t try forcing them to read &#8220;Through the Looking Glass.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Or avoid a tale of L\u00edf and L\u00edf\u00ferasir riding out Ragnar\u00f6k by hiding in Yggdrasil because it&#8217;s not science or history.<\/p>\n<p>Avoiding stories because another person won&#8217;t or can&#8217;t enjoy products of our imaginations is possible. But doesn&#8217;t seem reasonable. (<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/a-writer-who-is-catholic\/#my\">July 16, 2017<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Sharing a figment of imagination may not always be a bad idea. I see differences, significant ones, between a storyteller weaving a tale and a con artist selling a version of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Victor_Lustig\">Victor Lustig&#8217;s<\/a> &#8220;money-printing machine&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I also think Tolkien is right about at least one aspect of mythology:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;This aspect of &#8216;mythology&#8217; \u2014 sub-creation, rather than either representation or symbolic interpretation of the beauties and terrors of the world \u2014 is, I think, too little considered&#8230;.&#8221;<br \/>\n(&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/blogsource\/201130716ff-Documents\/Tolkien.pdf\">J.R.R. Tolkien, On Fairy Stories<\/a>,&#8221; via The Heritage Podcast)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And that&#8217;s yet again another topic, for another day.<\/p>\n<p>Other posts that may or may not be related to this one:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/materialism-robots-and-attitudes\/\">Materialism, Robots and Attitudes<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(April 15, 2018)<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/science-faith-and-me\/\">Science, Faith, and Me<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(January 29, 2017)<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/remembering-wisdom\/\">Remembering Wisdom<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(January 21, 2018)<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/god-doesnt-make-junk\/\">God Doesn&#8217;t Make Junk<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(January 14, 2018)<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/brendans-island.com\/catholic-citizen\/knowledge-opening-the-gift\/\">Knowledge: Opening the Gift<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\n(March 26, 2017)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr>\n<p><sup><a name=\"1\"><\/a>1<\/sup> Philosophers, &#8220;isms&#8221; and all that:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Anaxagoras\">Anaxagoras<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Idealism\">Idealism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Materialism\">Materialism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Metaphysics\">Metaphysics<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Monism\">Monism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nous\">Nous<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Plato\">Plato<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><sup><a name=\"2\"><\/a>2<\/sup> A Saint, A Gnostic, and two &#8220;isms:&#8221;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dualistic_cosmology\">Dualistic cosmology<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gnosis\">Gnosis<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gnosticism\">Gnosticism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Saint_Valentine\">Saint Valentine<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Valentinianism\">Valentinianism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Valentinus_(Gnostic)\">Valentinus (Gnostic)<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><sup><a name=\"3\"><\/a>3<\/sup> Gnosticism&#8217;s origins, maybe:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Buddhism_and_Gnosticism\">Buddhism and Gnosticism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dualistic_cosmology\">Dualistic cosmology<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gnosticism#Neoplatonism\">Neoplatonism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Platonic_Academy\">Platonic Academy<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zoroastrianism\">Zoroastrianism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zurvanism\">Zurvanism<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><sup><a name=\"4\"><\/a>4<\/sup> Mysticism isn&#8217;t the problem. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dictionary.com\/browse\/nescient\">Nescience<\/a> can be:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/roman_curia\/pontifical_councils\/interelg\/documents\/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html\">Jesus Christ The Bearer Of The Water Of Life \u2013 A Christian reflection on the New Age<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\nPontifical Council for Culture, Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue (2003)<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.davidtorkington.com\/christian-mysticism-and-its-counterfeit\/\">Christian Mysticism and its Counterfeit<\/a>&#8221;<br \/>\nDavid Torkington (February 17, 2017)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some folks act as if they think physical reality is bad and having a body is icky. The notion&#8217;s &#8216;Biblical,&#8217; sort of. 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